onsdag 18 december 2013

Blog comments: Part 1 (Theme 1-3)


Theme 1: Theory of science


Blog No. 1
Author of the blog: Amanda Glass
Date: 14 november 2013 16:15
Comment: "For example, you could theoretically have a correct answer on your math quiz, but that doesn’t mean that your problem was solved in a correct way. "
I'm thinking regarding your example. I agree with it but at the same time I don't.

As long as you know the actual truth about something, shouldn't that be the important part? How a problem is solved to get to the truth is important for people other than yourself. Other people need to find out if what you are saying is actually true or not, and thus you might have to know how to explain yourself for other people's sake. But for yourself only, as long as you truly believe it is actually the truth, then isn't it the truth no matter how you came to that conclusion? After all, we have been questioning whether there is any truth or knowledge to anything at all. Who is to even decide what way is "the correct way"?


Blog No. 2
Author of the blog: Zahra Alhouaidy
Date: 14 november 2013 16:29
Comment: I think we will have to spend a lifetime questioning ourselves what knowledge actually is! If there is at all an answer to that question to begin with. Just like how I started my sentence "I think..", I think that for every known truth today and for every belief, it should just all start with a "I think". As science develops and we find out new "truths" every now and then, we will never be sure, which is why I believe that "knowledge will always be a belief". As long as the world never stops, we will continuously find out new things that will either falsify or "complete" our previous beliefs or simply create additional beliefs (as if we didn't have enough already). And this will go on and on. As you mentioned about "probable opinion" that commonly passes as knowledge. Everything we consider ourselves know today could be said to be just that, a probable opinion instead of knowledge.
 

Blog No. 3
Author of the blog: Simon Schmitz
Date: November 14, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Comment: Hey! When I was reading the blog post and came to that statement ("reality might therefore be something that is not immediately present to our sensation"), I thought that I had to comment on it too.
I was thinking that since we according to Russell only have access to our thoughts and the sense-data we collect, how do we then know that there even is a reality that is not present to us, since we shouldn't be able to sense it? The reality of an object is unknown because the sensation is varying, but why can't the sensations be the reality? Can there only exist one and only one precise reality? A lot of questions..


Blog No. 4
Author of the blog: Victor Olsson
Date: 15 november 2013 12:46
Comment: You stated that Russell uses the notion of sense-data to point out that you can't use that data to explain the physical object, because the sense-data is varying.
This leads me to thinking that the so-called "physical object" we think that we are seeing, touching, hearing, etc, might have some other unknown value than "physical", you know? Maybe some value that is not known to us human beings. If it was physical, we should be able to explain it by saying "I can touch this object, so this physical object exist", but apparently we are not allowed to say that according to Russell. I'm thinking that maybe in that case we should rather call this physical object "unidentified object", much like how we say about UFO's!
 

Blog No. 5
Author of the blog: Mårten Cederman
Date: 15 november 2013 12:56
Comment: Hi! I want to comment about how you stated that sense-data is like an attribute that is connected to a physical object, and how we are aware of the object but it doesn't mean it's actually there.
I had previously just written another comment on someone else's blog (http://tmmlp2013.blogspot.se/2013/11/theme-1-theory-of-science.html) about this. I started thinking about how Russell is calling this object as "physical". You explained the sense-data as attributes, which usually are adjectives in this case, right? But isn't the word "physical" an adjective, and thus also should be an attribute? How come that we are so certain about the object being "physical" but unsure about any other attribute, and yet at the same time unsure whether this object actually exists? I had come up with the idea that this object should in fact be called "unidentified object"! What do you think?



Blog No. 6
Author of the blog: Lucy Armelin
Date: 15 November 2013 13:13
Comment: I like your last wording. "it is not true knowledge, but the belief of true knowledge". I also thought that knowledge should only merely be a belief and nothing else, since as you also wrote "realities are not all exactly the same". The "reality" (which is another question of what it actually consists of) changes for every millisecond, so what is certain one moment might not be certain the next moment and therefore we can't and shouldn't seek for definite answers to things as it's just like a blind game.
I'm also wondering, I noticed that you wrote "realities" instead of one "reality". I wonder if you did that while actually being aware of it, as I would be curious on your thoughts whether there might be several realities out there and not just one reality. That point was actually very interesting that I hadn't thought about before this!



Blog No. 7
Author of the blog: Sara Långvik
Date: 15 november 2013 13:23
Comment: "Aristotle maintained that women have fewer teeth than men; although he was twice married, it never occurred to him to verify this statement by examining his wives' mouths."
That was actually very interesting! It makes me wonder how he then had come up with that conclusion, if he hadn't examined any woman's mouth? Did someone else say that to him? Maybe he only encountered women with small teeth that made the number of teeth look less (?) or with some broken teeth, so he must have thought that all women must be the same and have less teeth. This leads us to thinking that propositions are made up from our experiences among others.



Blog No. 8
Author of the blog: Marit Aldén
Date: 15 november 2013 13:43
Comment: Hello! I also would like to comment regarding your answer for the fourth question, as it was an interesting explanation you had there!
You wrote that "a belief of something cannot be considered to be based on knowledge. A belief is just a belief and nothing more."
But what do you think about the thought that knowledge always gets updated as society develops and understands things better and better, as time goes by? Can we then be certain at any moment at all that there ever is a fixed statement of knowledge, and be able to clearly differentiate it from belief?
In my blog post, I stated that "knowledge will always be a belief".
During this last week, I have had difficulties trying to figure out where the line actually is between belief and knowledge. I came to realize that those two might actually just be the same thing. The difference might be that a belief is a statement that the majority of people find false, and knowledge is the statement that the majority of people find true. So the two are basically highly dependent on what the contemporary people themselves believe, and not actually representing the reality.



Blog No. 9
Author of the blog: Mimmi Albertsson
Date: 15 november 2013 14:02
Comment: Hi!

You wrote that "knowledge could just be true belief. However this perception may result in errors when the true belief turns out to be false or when true believes does not result in the correct conclusion."

Don't you think that this can be applied to knowledge itself too, and not only on belief, whether it's true or false? As you know, knowledge we have had in the past has later "proven" to be false, which means that it was merely a strong belief among the contemporary people at that time. Today, we want to think that the knowledge of today is certain, and thus true. But who knows, if in the future, just like in the past, today's knowledge that we hold so strong might turn out to be false! So in the end, that perception you wrote about could precisely turn out to be false, but that question we will not be able to answer as long as we can't see the end of the world and find the absolute last answer to any existing knowledge whether they are true or false.


Blog No. 10
Author of the blog: Andreas Sylvan
Date: 15 november 2013 14:39
Comment: Hi!
It sure was an interesting comparison with The Matrix. You wrote how the world "is a perception of the minds living in it, but it is not real." This leads me to wonder what we even believe that reality consists of, or is supposed to consist of, if we are confident enough to state that our current world is not real. If it is not real, and we don't even know what "real" is, then how do we know that it is not real at all? Can we even know that, since just that requires us to have knowledge about the "realness" or reality, and as you know, many of us have been questioning ourselves during the last week what knowledge even is and whether it is able to exist. So..
By the way, what about the "mind"? Apparently, the mind is allowed to be real and exist, but not the world. Our sense-data is telling us that we have a mind, but it is likewise also telling us that there is a physical world out there.
We seem to be going in circles trying to make things clear for ourselves but we are only giving birth to yet more questions.
"What even is this?"..






Theme 2: Critical media studies



Blog No. 1
Author of the blog: Johan Gårdstedt
Date 22 november 2013 11:53
Comment: Hello!
You wrote "Enlightenment stands in the same relationship to things as the dictator to human beings. He knows them to the extent that he can manipulate them and here myth can be used as an instrument of control."
I remember reading that in the book and it's a very philosophical statement. I don't have a clear understanding of what really is meant. It's like, if the Enlightenment was a person, it would be a dictator. I can understand that as most of us seek enlightenment and basically worship it, but is it really manipulating us? I don't think it's clear where the end of enlightenment is, so we can always continue to (try) enlighten ourselves. Whether it's bad or good enlightenment, aren't both good in a way as they both serve some kind of enlightenment, in the sense that they enlighten you to seek further even if it was bad for example.. Hm, what do you think?


Blog No. 2
Author of the blog: Gustav Boström
Date: 22 november 2013 12:12
Comment: Hey!
I agree with your comment about the mass deception in TV shows today that often contain stupidity. I believe one reason for the success and popularity of such shows is that you usually watch those shows during weekends, holidays, evenings, etc, that is, at times when you just want to relax your brain from work or school. You've usually already been stimulating your brain all day so these shows are entertaining but at the same time they don't require much activity from your brain.
Due to the mass media, we are surrounded by a lot of information so I think just like "stefanetoh" commented, that it's great sometimes and other times you are free to choose the more stimulating media. There are many educating and interesting documentaries available for example.



Blog No. 3
Author of the blog: Anna Tjörnebro
Date: 22 november 2013 12:29
Comment: Hallå där Anna! :)
I was thinking regarding your description of old and new media. People in the past with old media could only connect with people talking "live" or through letters, but the new media allows for interaction through phone, the internet, etc. We discussed it a little bit in my seminar group and said how we're in fact not really communicating with more people but with less, as we're relying more and more on the technology to reach out to people instead of reaching out "live". I also came to think about how Dahlberg said during the lecture that social media can be described as an "interactive address book", which I thought was a brilliant explanation actually.. The address book has evolved from only containing text of the name, address, phone to being directly interactive with many ways to reach out to a person.


Blog No. 4
Author of the blog: Nicholas Ojala
Date: 22 november 2013 13:04
Comment: Hi!
I like your description of enlightenment and myth. You explained that "the difference between myth and science is that a myth does not have any proof." and that myth "is just an attempt to describe the truth about something without any logic".
Of course I have to agree that that's the case, but I want to challenge your (and my) thoughts. I was thinking that, can't myths be explained with that it was just very early science? Because at that time, they didn't have the necessary equipments or knowledge of how, to actually find out the "truth". Also, they kind of did have their own kinds of proofs, right? I mentioned that in my blog post. They had various explanations of the myths and for instance pointed out to different occasions as proof. For example, if a person did something wrong and then it rained hard the next day, they would say it was because some supernatural thing (god) was angry/punishing the person. And if this event happened several times, they would think it's actually true.
Also how we once believed the world was flat. Isn't it just early science? As time goes by, science is developing, the way we research, and we find new knowledge to replace the old one with.
In the future, there will be new types of "facts" and "truths" that we don't know about today and for sure there will be many that will even shatter the "truths" of today that we consider obvious, much like how people did in the past with myths for example.



Blog No. 5
Author of the blog: Edvard Ahlsén
Date: November 22, 2013 at 13:13 AM
Comment: Like previous commentators wrote, I also agree with you stating how the system has total control over the consumers. Also how you said that the talent of artists show their eagerness to be part of the system, which I find to be true in most cases. It goes to show for example on TV shows such as "Idol" or "Talang", etc.
I believe the author of the book also mentioned something like how we are "enslaved" to the system or the mass media/culture industry. We take in everything this system gives us and we follow it like slaves and want more, without much consideration over the actual value or importance. 







Blog No. 6
Author of the blog: Mårten Cederman
Date: 22 november 2013 13:21
Comment: Hi!
Just like you, I also didn't really have any ideas of how myth could be related to enlightenment before this course, and so found this particular topic especially interesting. One thing I would like to ask though is how you stated that "if we can't conceive the underlying concepts of things, it may as well be mythical".
You remember how we read from the first theme about the concept of knowledge and our attempt to define it? I just had a quick thought whether knowledge could partly be described as mythical, also considering the concept of "sense-data". Our "real" world may not be real but the way we think it is might be just supernatural compared to the "real reality"... hmm. Do I make sense? :)







Blog No. 7
Author of the blog: Mikael Kjellnäs
Date: 22 november 2013 13:31
Comment: Hello!
It's true regarding how we're manipulated and "our imagination is robbed from us". We all think the same, want the same things, consume the same things, etc.
But I was thinking of alternatives and, maybe partly because of society and how we all already grew up, but I find it difficult to see/find what an alternative of this "mass deception" situation would be. If mass media wouldn't deceive us etc, how would we act and live? How would or could society otherwise look like? Since human beings always have to live together, there would always be some kind of culture and with it comes both good and bad, as with anything else. I wonder how Adorno & Horkheimer imagined their "perfect society".







Blog No. 8
Author of the blog: Martin Johansson
Date: 22 november 2013 13:55
Comment: Hello.
It's true how the content produced by companies with big economic possibilities is the one that gets most attention and become the most desired by people. The content that gets less attention is basically automatically seen as not interesting or worthy (even if we haven't even seen it). Adorno & Horkheimer stated just that how the people high up in the hierarchy of society are the ones that control the culture industry. Thinking about this, everything, or a lot of things, seem to be very money-dependent in the culture industry. Without economic support, it's very difficult to have a saying in this culture industry and try to make some kind of change.







Blog No. 9
Author of the blog: Mimmi Albertsson
Date: 22 november 2013 14:15
Comment: Hello!
Your last paragraph with your thoughts is very interesting, especially how you mentioned that we were manipulated to like and consume the new technology. I remember a saying that you might have heard of, how we don't know that we want something before we see this something. I think this partly explains the success of technology and how the culture has changed due to the developments.
In the past where there only existed newspapers and radio, before TV, internet, etc were invented, the people back then never thought about having something similar to the internet. They might have thought things like "I wish I could just reach my friend directly who's at work now but I have to wait for them to return home", but that's as far as their thoughts probably came, as close as they could get to the internet. They couldn't imagine something like a "computer" or so, which makes it then impossible for them to desire it in the first place and request it from the industry, right?
So, on the other hand I'm thinking whether it's just natural the things turned out and how the culture industry controls society and the direction it takes..







Blog No. 10
Author of the blog: Maria Strömbäck
Date: 22 november 2013 14:26
Comment: Hi!
Haha, I like your final thoughts. :) I think the same thing!
Since they (Adorno & Horkheimer) probably grew up under quite harsh circumstances, the culture shocks they got might have been a little too much and they might have gone through traumatic things in their lives? .. which made them look at things very critically and value things differently compared to the norm back then. I'm not sure since I haven't read much about them in detail, but as you say, they fail to see the positive sides of mass media or the changes in the culture industry. There is good and bad in almost everything. Don't we really like those very quick e-mails, instead of having to send out handwritten letters and wait several days for an answer? We're able to be more productive today than back then, just as an example of one positive thing among many others.






Theme 3: Research and theory


Blog No. 1
Author of the blog: Jenny Sillén
Date: 25 november 2013 15:37
Comment: Hello Jenny!
That was a really interesting study you've chosen. I do think it's true that the quality of a website and the signals it gives you can affect you greatly. As you mentioned too, I agree that this study can not only be applied on ecommerce websites but also on pretty much any website. I think that any website need to be of somewhat high quality to be taken seriously by a visitor, or at least by more experienced visitors?
I'm also thinking whether high quality and the signals really are the same thing. As I understood it from your text, it seems that both are used synonymously. I think that it is possible for a website to be able to cue positive signals to the visitor without necessarily being very high quality.. it might require some great skills though. I mean, as long as it doesn't look like it came from the 90's. It can give off the signals of being trustworthy and buy-able. What do you think?



Blog No. 2
Author of the blog: Carl Ahrsjö
Date: 25 november 2013 16:10
Comment: Hi.
Interesting choice of paper where I find the results to be quite obvious. I think people in general play games together for the fun experience and the social interaction, rather than pay attention and enjoy the technology itself even if it's indeed interesting to try out but it's not really the main point. The purpose of games is to have fun and for multiplayer games like golf where you can play together, I think you'd mostly be seeking the social interaction, play against each other. Those are my thoughts at least.



Blog No. 3
Author of the blog: Louise Heurlin
Date: 25 november 2013 16:40
Comment: Hi! You said that the paper was discussing a broad field and thus seemed to be unclear, straggly and lacked some logic. I think that happens very easily and is a high risk when you make the decision to study a broad field or choose a specific field and decide to include a lot of topics that seem relevant but later ends up being irrelevant for the conclusions..
Just thought I'd point it out because it's happened to me and it's really unfortunate! Reading other papers like this though gives experience and understanding of how you can improve your own writing. :)



Blog No. 4
Author of the blog: Anna Tjörnebro
Date: 25 november 2013 17:27
Comment: Hey Anna :).
Interesting choice of paper about YouTube. I'm wondering though how the big companies changed the website, what the causes are, instead of being the users themselves which I would have thought? Maybe that's what you meant though about the lack of technological reasons. Nonetheless, it's an interesting study because I do agree about YouTube helping the online streaming business, early displaying the advantages about streaming media and thus allowing other services to be formed.


Blog No. 5
Author of the blog: Isabella Arningsmark
Date: 2 december 2013 12:47
Comment: Hi!
Interesting study you've chosen, regarding the relationship between use of UGC and political involvement. By UGC involvement, I guess it's meant for example uploading content on YouTube? Did the study mention precisely what it is that defines "UGC involvement", eg. minimum number of uploaded content? Those who have only uploaded one single video might not be that much involved, and depending on what type of content generated. Otherwise I can understand the findings. As the UGC involved users might be used to expressing their opinions and thoughts through uploaded content and make them public, they're probably more eager to be politically engaged. It's an interesting relationship and so an interesting theory! If more research is done on this subject, certain measures could be taken to try and involve more young people politically and increase interest.

 

Blog No. 6
Author of the blog: Cem Atilgan
Date: December 2, 2013 at 1:05 PM
Comment: Hi. It's interesting how the author of your chosen study compares the evolution of media with a life-cycle: Emergence, Adaptation, Survival and Extinction. It's like explaining parts of the human life, quite similar.
I was also trying to understand the following: "Article significantly underlines the importance of simulation process that undergoes at at every stage."
What is meant by the "simulation process" in this case/context?
Nonetheless, interesting choice of paper! There seems to be endless definitions of the evolution of media. It's quite a difficult phenomena to study as it consists of many things, perspectives and areas.
 

Blog No. 7
Author of the blog: Filip Erlandsson
Date: 2 december 2013 13:48
Comment: Hi.
I read your post and I agree with you that it was indeed an appropriately chosen method for the study. Since the study is basically about the relationship between SNS and the social impact it generates, it's better to study this over a period of time rather than asking respondents if they feel SNS has made a social impact on them. Such questions would be very hard to answer. So the method used would give more accurate results as the respondents answer based on how it is today.. right?
One question I had while reading your description though is who those "distinct SNS users" are, compared to the "regular" SNS users? It wasn't very clear to me.


Blog No. 8
Author of the blog: Tommy Roshult
Date: 2 december 2013 14:18
Comment: Hi.
It seems like you chose a really confusing and difficult paper, well done on trying to explain and make sense of it anyway!
I'm wondering though about the proposed new strategy "that makes use of the pattern that appears when people overlapping each other". If I understood correctly, this is the 2nd method, right? Did the author explain the process of how they came up with that new strategy, or is that also only referenced to? By your description, it seems like they briefly proposed the strategy and then went right ahead with the study of the two methods to answer their questions about the detectors.
 

Blog No. 9
Author of the blog: Oscar Friberg
Date: 2 december 2013 16:01
Comment: Hi. I agree with your thought about the problem with the study, that it depends on location and time. Though as you mentioned, the article is supposed to only cover the Twitter usage of Dutch politicians, or no? It would be good if the study was only focused on the Dutch politicians. Further studies could then be to do the same study but in another country and then make some kind of comparison.
As a side note, I think it's interesting in our case how Carl Bildt is very active on Twitter. I think it's a good idea for politicians because as you mentioned it decreases the gap with the citizens for example. I also remember how Carl Bildt had some arguing going on with an another politician (from an another country) on Twitter, which was talked about in media and I found quite funny..
 

Blog No. 10
Author of the blog: Mikaela Wahlstedt
Date: 2 december 2013 16:50
Comment: Hi. I found your chosen study interesting. As you mentioned, it's written in 2007 so it must have been one of the few studies made at that time about Facebook. There are many studies on social media today and it's an interesting topic to study and learn about the relationships between users and various subjects such as the social capital. It's interesting thinking about how a social platform online can affect the real life of a person to such extent.. at least to the more "sensitive" people? Now that I think about it, it would be interesting to study the different characteristics of people with the same social media usage and how differently they are affected.. I mean, if a "strong-headed" vs a "light-headed" person with the same Facebook activities have the same type of social capital.. Just a thought.



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